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Question at Bob Murphy`s: can ending a tragedy of the commons create jobs / enhance wealth?

Check out the comments to Bob Murphy`s post that rightly but shallowly criticizes the “green jobs” mantra, EDF Summarizes Bastiat in One Picture.  I refer to Rockwell and Block.

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  1. TokyoTom
    May 24th, 2009 at 07:26 | #1

    liberty student, thanks for going to the effort to provide more substantive criticism than your usual fare.

    “shallow”?: You implicitly concede that Bob`s initial post WAS shallow. In any case, I put this up before Bob responded; he doesn`t always, and I hoped that perhaps someone here might jump in. What`s holding you back, BTW; afraid of the water?

    “It simply seems hypocritical to me that an advocate of the market with the capacity to provide depth where shallowness (opportunity exists) would deliberately choose to lobby his competitor to perform the role that he claims to fulfill in the marketplace.”

    This and following sentences are thought-provoking, but fly like a lame duck. By your own suggestion, you should not be commenting here, but blogging separately. But that makes it kinda difficult to have conversations, doesn`t it?

    But actually, have you not noted that I both contribute to traffic at Bob`s while generating some traffic and head-scratching of my own? A conversation need not be a zero-sum game, as you seem to prefer.

    Besides, if I am aiming to influence the debate, do you really think that commenting at the blog of a smart guy like Bob is a waste of time?

    “In a free market, protests are a waste of time.”

    This is simply wrong. First, division of labor implies that we can`t efficiently produce everything ourselves. Second, in a free market, consumer protests are in fact highly effective, as sellers don`t want to lose customers.

    “Ad hom.” – Glad you noticed. Now will you stop posting them, so I can put down the mirror I`ve been holding up to you?

    “Bob is just fighting you over there so that people don’t have to fight you over here.”

    Bob ignores me half the time. But he`s also commenting here. I`m pretty sure he hasn`t appointed you as his guard dog (which, to be frank, is the role you`ve taken on) in what is a conversation, not a war. But if you feel strongly, you should really take it up with Bob, not not me, and tell him to stop encouraging me.

    Unfortunately, the rest of your comments spoil a good comment by resorting to form:

    “the inevitable threat.” – there`s nothing to this but your own dark fantasies. Seriously; you have no support for this. I post all comments, after I have chance to go through the spam filter. My point was simply to get you to be more substantive, as your other posts to date have simply been a fairly empty bother. You can keep posting empty stuff all you want; I won`t block you.

    “It’s like watching a rerun. A resort to the same tactics when things don’t go a certain way.” You are talking to yourself about yourself. Sure you`ve irked me, but every point I`ve made in response has been fair.

  2. liberty student
    May 24th, 2009 at 01:47 | #2

    “Umm, perhaps, just perhaps the depth is in the comment thread I reference?”
    Then why mention his post is shallow here, if it was developed in the comments where he gave you as much attention as two heterosexual men on different continents could expect from one another?

    “”Blog some depth.” Yes, Sir! Right away, sir!”

    It simply seems hypocritical to me that an advocate of the market with the capacity to provide depth where shallowness (opportunity exists) would deliberately choose to lobby his competitor to perform the role that he claims to fulfill in the marketplace.

    I thought your goal was to add to the discussion, not to browbeat people to represent your POV for you.

    In a free market, protests are a waste of time. With a low cost of entry, any legitimate operator can and should fill the void.

    “Are you threatening to stop reading my posts, or to cease your pattern of >>high school locker room-type of uninformed, ad hom and shallow comments<

  3. May 24th, 2009 at 00:09 | #3

    Wow, for once in the history of the universe, TokyoTom is *less* diplomatic than I would have been šŸ˜‰

    Yes, I’m the same silas barta that linked the cool graphic in that discussion…

  4. TokyoTom
    May 23rd, 2009 at 07:05 | #4

    Umm, perhaps, just perhaps the depth is in the comment thread I reference?

    “Blog some depth.”  Yes, Sir! Right away, sir!

    “This constant critique of Bob for not satisfying your particular viewpoint with HIS blog posts is rather tiresome.”

    Are you threatening to stop reading my posts, or to cease your pattern of high school locker room-type of uninformed, ad hom and shallow comments?

    But if you`re so worried about Bob, why don`t you run over to HIS blog and persuade HIM to stop responding to me?  I`m sure he`ll be grateful for your solicitude.

    I consider my exchanges with Bob to be a conversation, an effort to persuade that I think useful to share here.  If you disagree, please make some substantive comments; if not feel free to save your time by refraining from substance-less comments like these.

  5. liberty student
    May 23rd, 2009 at 06:00 | #5

    Too shallow? Blog some depth. This constant critique of Bob for not satisfying your particular viewpoint with HIS blog posts is rather tiresome.

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